Could it be that you just don’t understand that if people chose to play in a game or a band that it is done voluntarily, that it has nothing to do with the bigger problems of living in a group that’s is struggling with whether it will be a society of individuals or collectivists

Maybe you should look up republic and democracy and tell me everything’s the same.

Or here’s an idea, spend some time and actually watch the series on you-tube, it really is quite good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMYicq_SN1E

You are either a ‘there ought to be a law’ kind of person… or
You’re a ‘the government can’t impose on the people anything that the people can’t impose on each other‘ person.

While it’s clear we need both to some degree, it’s that degree that seems to be the tripping point.
In a republic we have our rules written down, (US constitution) these rules don‘t change. And these rules are more for things our government CAN‘T do then rules of what we the people can’t do.

In a democracy you have the likes of Al Gore calling for a “living constitution”(mob rule), or if you like, the collectivist majority rule, in this form of government where 51% of the people can take the “rights” away for 49%, this is not what this country was founded on, but sadly some think it was.

When we pledge allegiance, it is to the republic, not the democracy for witch it stands.
The ‘republic’ is put in several time throughout the constitution, democracy is never, (let me repeat that), NEVER put in anywhere, the founding fathers knew that this was a flawed way of governing and chose not to use it.

The differences from the two might seem like a difficult concept, but it’s not, the government derives its power from the governed, there for it can’t have power that the people themselves don’t have.
In short, you can’t give what you don’t have… (unless you’re a democrat).

Democrats feel the collative is more important then the individual, and there for the collective should have more power then the individual, there in lies the rub.


I can not make the person in Warwick buy health insurance, as a free individual he (or she) alone makes that call, regardless of what others feel.
There for the government we support should not be able to make that call either.

When our government sends money to another country, or gives to a charity of it’s choosing it’s not charity, it’s extortion. Because if I don’t pay the taxes that were collected for these expenses I would be fined and eventually go to jail.
that’s hardly charity, because it’s not voluntarily.
And being forced to pay for others healthcare is no different.

Picture there being a fine for not having enough gifts under the Christmas tree.
Kind of kicks the shit out of the ‘good feeling’ of giving doesn’t it.

To say that the collectivist is not at odds with the Individualist in this country is to believe there is no problems in the country about; healthcare, guns, immigration, abortion, drug, taxes and so on.


I own me, I am an individual, I do not derive my rights from the collective, there for these rights can not be taken away by the collective.

When we infringe on these rights with laws, we create more problems then we started with.
Example;
law; felons can’t have guns,
Problem; we just turned a ‘right’ into a ‘privilege’

And please, before you get all huffy about the guy from Middletown wanting felons to have guns, I’d like you to just stop….) think about the point I’m making here.

If our government/collectives can take these ‘privilege’ away from some, they can take them rights away from all.

Here’s one that might get your interest, our big government is talking limits on the internet…
All you can do is talk on the internet, nothing else, so what they are really taking about is putting “reasonable” restrictions on your first amendment ‘rights‘. who will decide what’s “reasonable“? They site things like child porn, or hacking, but things like this are ALREADY illegal, so what is this really about? Will I still be able to call the guy in the white house by his real name, Barry the liar?

Individualism and collectivism not at odds?, that’s the collectivist telling us the problems doesn’t exists, that the individuals little problems don’t exist.
Welcome to the collective.

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